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mdm5
12-21-2006, 09:34 PM
i dont really like the race bonus is set up,you shouldnt have a negitave bonus on any stat:confused: that just makes it hard to build that stat,which people dont want,it should be more simple as in a % of 1 type of action increased for each race.

Invisible
12-22-2006, 05:52 AM
there always needs to be a reason not to pick a race, its about balancing around it,

FirePenguins
12-22-2006, 04:06 PM
I think that if I were to change anything about the races it would be the special weapons. Trying to build stats with weapons of 100 strength versus 1000 strength is almost impossible. You need so many soldiers to hold your weapons that attacking is actually a lose and every time you get attacked you lose so many soldiers.

Now I might be biased since I chose a race without any special weapons and just unit production and income bonus (looked good at the time but turned out to be a rather stupid choice)... but my unit production bonus is useless if I lose 18K soldiers per undefended attack and I can't attack to raise my defence any higher since I'll lose at least 5K soldiers per offensive attack. Since I can't raise my defence fast enough I can't keep my gold unless I check my account every 15 minutes which means I can't benefit from the income bonus.

It's not really that unfair, but I think lowering the special weapons strength to around 300 and making the negative stats on races with special weapons a little bit less (-10 to -25 no more -50 ) would even things out some more.

My other solution is to give Gornya a 25% decrease in costs for banking levels. That way the Gornya race could actually benefit from its bonuses which are supposed to give it more money.

mdm5
12-22-2006, 07:29 PM
I think that if I were to change anything about the races it would be the special weapons. Trying to build stats with weapons of 100 strength versus 1000 strength is almost impossible. You need so many soldiers to hold your weapons that attacking is actually a lose and every time you get attacked you lose so many soldiers.

Now I might be biased since I chose a race without any special weapons and just unit production and income bonus (looked good at the time but turned out to be a rather stupid choice)... but my unit production bonus is useless if I lose 18K soldiers per undefended attack and I can't attack to raise my defence any higher since I'll lose at least 5K soldiers per offensive attack. Since I can't raise my defence fast enough I can't keep my gold unless I check my account every 15 minutes which means I can't benefit from the income bonus.

It's not really that unfair, but I think lowering the special weapons strength to around 300 and making the negative stats on races with special weapons a little bit less (-10 to -25 no more -50 ) would even things out some more.

My other solution is to give Gornya a 25% decrease in costs for banking levels. That way the Gornya race could actually benefit from its bonuses which are supposed to give it more money.


i agree with his first paragraph completely,too many soldiers are needed.and i picked Gornya,so that helps but definetly not enough,because now i have to get 3 times as much weapons as any other type of race that gets a bonus for that stat,although thats not the main problem it gives me terrible headaches and sometimes makes no sense.

to your second paragraph,i personally find a way around that offensive attacking soldier loose problem,but it costs more money to do what i do,and will cost me billions when i want to train all my soldiers at the last week.which doesnt really matter much since im Gornya and my bank is loaded,but it cancels out my bonus since my extra money is going towards evening out the fact that i have to get 3 times as much weapons as other races.and i only picked Gornya cause i started late and i needed alot of soldiers fast,i dont know if i would even need a production bonus next age.

i still belive that a certain % on 1 stats is the way to go, maybe a small negitave one on 1 stat,but no more than a 10% one

1SXYLDY
01-02-2007, 01:08 AM
No game is going to completely satisfy every player in every aspect! They are not designed for that reason. Just like in a real war every army is not 100% the same in every way. So, why should a rpg be any different?? You always have negetives and positives in everything!!!!!!!!

mdm5
01-04-2007, 03:42 PM
No game is going to completely satisfy every player in every aspect! They are not designed for that reason. Just like in a real war every army is not 100% the same in every way. So, why should a rpg be any different?? You always have negetives and positives in everything!!!!!!!!



real war is not going to have one side not good at one thing and good at another thing,thats stupidity,who wants bad defence/offense/spy/sentry?no one is willingly going to stop doing one for another,
one side may have average stats,and excel in one field,that is more likely,

the aim of a building rpg would be to make the game sound interesting,which you have done,easy yet stradigically playable,if i have to get 2-3times more weapons just to be equal to an opposing player,that wouldnt be easy,having all weapon types the same value is a much better idea,with a +% on one stats,

1SXYLDY
01-07-2007, 12:56 AM
mdm5 if you dont like the way Andy has HIS game set up the logical conclusion would be for you to stop playing it. I personally am tired of all your whining about everything. To you it has to be your way or no way... some war game that would be. Seems you are the only one having an issue with the race bonuses.

Alecto
01-07-2007, 12:59 AM
i have to say, CoC is the best game i have seen, other than the few bugs it has and the lack of active members, but it will be great in the near future

rainman75
01-07-2007, 01:59 AM
WOW, i like it the way it is , new spy tool is gonna take some gettin used to , but the bonuses and negatives are what make the game challenging, what good is a game without a challenge,:rolleyes:

Alecto
01-08-2007, 07:24 AM
I think everything in the game is fine other than the very few bugs and the sabbing. If everything was to easy, the game would get boring really fast.

mdm5
01-08-2007, 09:49 PM
mdm5 if you dont like the way Andy has HIS game set up the logical conclusion would be for you to stop playing it. I personally am tired of all your whining about everything. To you it has to be your way or no way... some war game that would be. Seems you are the only one having an issue with the race bonuses.


please dont push me off the edge,im simply trying to point out ways of doing this to the game that could increase numbers,if you dont want that then fine,and just because i reply to you disagreeing with my diea doesnt mean im against the whole game and whining,
and fine i wont post ideas on the furom anymore if thats how you feel about it,but you dont give chances for people to deal a situations out properly, and to me it seems if the mods dont approve of an idea straight up theres no point in even continueing with it